Mentioning the donation arrangement for the worldwide work early on in the presentation is a good way to get the door slammed, or just start out with a "We're Jehovah's Witnesses" opening line. An elder counseled me for starting out with that, but I countered and said that was who we were and we should be proud of that fact and eager to share as part of our 'public declaration for salvation' doctrine. He backed off when he couldn't find a way to argue with that.
Las Malvinas son Argentinas
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A Faders Guide to Field Service
by pronomono inas a fader, i'm working on a mental guide to field service.
because most of this is a mental exercise realizing that your new knowledge, the mental side of things, is what makes it so hard to preach after learning ttatt.
what presentations have you used in field service as a fader to preach the good news without preaching jw propaganda?.
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Honest survey question on effectiveness of 'apostacy'
by Simon init seems like lots of people have big dreams of 'destroying the watchtower'.
it's usually linked to a story of how they were wronged and want some revenge.
do these 'in your face' attempts to convince people that the truth isn't the truth really have an effect?.
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The problem with making videos is that you are mostly preaching to your own choir. True JWs are likely to turn it off by reflex once the doctrine is questioned. As a result the most that ex-JW videos do is to create a back-slapping atmosphere in the community and a chorus of 'well-done!' and 'Bravo!'. If you seek prominence for yourself within the exJW world, then this would be the way to go. Whilst it could find a JW seriously considering their doubts, the fact remains that there already is a wealth of information and online resources about JWs that are easily accessible. There is hardly a point of information that has not already been covered by other more connected and respected sources. People need to want the information first and be open to it for anything to be of use. Once the desire is there, it simply becomes a matter of connecting the dots. The whole 'let's make a video on youtube poking fun at Witness doctrine' or 'let's protest the assemblies with insulting slogans' scene is about as effective as a jilted ex-lover sending the current companion all these insulting emails and wild accusations regarding the ex. The most common reaction is going to be 'get a life, you need to move on'. The desire for information needs to be there first, and not the other way round.
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Were You Tough On Your Fellow Witnesses?
by minimus inwhen i was younger, i saw things as a young, inexperienced man.
i thought i knew it all, but time would prove otherwise.
i believed that as long as you accepted "mother's" counsel, then everyone should just follow jehovah's organization's guidance.. i realized some witnesses actually loved that thought, that it's either black or white.
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My mother and oldest brother who served as the male head of household since my father was gone were known as very stern Witnesses. As a result people were very careful around me and I wasn't invited anywhere except for WT studies or the like. I spent a few months at the Montevideo branch and was introduced to a lot of things I never thought existed. I came back and everyone thought I had a bad attitude and that there was something off about me. It was then that I married too young and to the wrong man in the hope of setting my own identity separate from my family and to gain a measure of freedom.
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GB Leo Kincaid Greenlees Date of birth. Date of death.
by LoisLane looking for Superman inleo kincaid greenlees.
birth: 06 june 1911 (it states "other country").
death: 17 feb 1988. ss# 081445620. ss death index states: last residence brooklyn, kings, new york usa.
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I remember hearing that Greenlees was from Canada. The 081 SSN number would indicate that it was issued in Pennsylvania. He may have been special pioneering in CA when he died.
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why am i still single?
by redpilllizard81 ini have the hardest time meeting singles in the "world".
currently inactive.
but my dating situation is sort of in limbo and its driving me mad..
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Put up pics of yourself doing something, or with other people. Do NOT post pics of you taking a pic of yourself in the bathroom mirror. Smile on the pics. Show some teeth. Put up as many as you can. On your profile description, be honest and tell them what you like to do in your spare time and in life. Show a little philosophy, but don't get carried away with it. Don't get too wordy. Chances are they've already made up their mind by the time they have gotten past the pics.
Do NOT always talk about yourself. Only do so when prompted. If anyone told you that dating is like going to a job interview they are lying. Ask the other party questions, but make sure they're good ones. Show a genuine interest. 'What are your goals in life?' is too broad. Ask about what they did last weekend, or lure them into talking about their friends. Take the bait when you are prompted to say something about yourself. Don't go on and on about your job.
Above all, stay positive and optimistic, and NEVER bring up exes unless you really have to.
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Brooklyn Eagle Article: WT Tunnels - Mysterious, Lingering Remnants Ministerial Heights Presence
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/watchtower-tunnels-mysterious-lingering-remnants-ministerial-heights-presence-2013-10-16.
very interesting article.
how much do you think the wt has to pay the city for using their own four tunnels?.
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Well that makes sense then. Thanks.
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Brooklyn Eagle Article: WT Tunnels - Mysterious, Lingering Remnants Ministerial Heights Presence
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/watchtower-tunnels-mysterious-lingering-remnants-ministerial-heights-presence-2013-10-16.
very interesting article.
how much do you think the wt has to pay the city for using their own four tunnels?.
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I can't see the use in constructing those tunnels in the first place. They brag about all these amenities and build uneccessary things much like a balding and overweight man in his 50's with a small [.....] would buy a Corvette and rev it up to show off to the high school girls as the bell rings. What, is Brooklyn like Reykjavík in winter? Bethelites can't be trusted to cross the street?
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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fizzywiglet: He's been at this 'take exxagerated offense, offend everyone else in the process by his resulting behaviour, then offer a fake apology to save face' game for the relatively short time that he's been here. When he first had the idea to operate a JW survey site, he was quite open about the costs that he was fronting and that he would be more than willing to accept donations to help fund what eventually would become his own website. Lady Lee of all people shut him down, locked his threads and referred the issue to Simon. Cedars couldn't wait and kept on opening threads about it, sheepishly droning on about how he was in 'negotiations' with site management for soliciting donations, and all this was going to cost money (hint hint, wink wink) and he had to fund it himself even though it had been his idea from the beginning. So LL just about had it with him and called him out on it in forum for continuing to solicit in violation of forum rules. Cedars then goes into attack mode against LL, telling her that she's a poor mod, how she's unfairly attacking him, and even hints that she might be a man. It goes back and forth until Cedars found that he had virtually no friends in going after LL like that and thus started what was his unique way of apologising. With that I mean he offers an apology and then immediately qualifies it by:
1. implying that he really doesn't owe anyone an apology, but will do so anyway
2. criticising the person he is apologising to for fighting him in the first place, claimed insults, or 'lapses of judgment'
3. making it clear that he too was offended and/or wronged and that he should be apologised to
Here's an actual cut-and-paste of what he said to LL:
I wholly and categorically apologize for trespassing item 6 of the Posting Guidelines by providing a PayPal address by which those who had expressed an interest in helping to fund my survey could do so. This was an extremely ill-advised action on my part. I have already apologized to Lady Lee and Simon for this, and will continue to apologize to anybody who feels personally affronted by my conduct in this matter. I also apologize for any similarly-inadvertent trespassing of item 11. This is a matter of sincere regret on my part.
I regret the comments that I made on this post about Lady Lee's work as a moderator. Despite any momentary lapse in her judgment regarding the scamming issue in not running her concerns past me first, she gives of her time voluntarily and makes a notable contribution towards making this forum a safer place for all concerned. Whilst some of her comments that were made were unfortunate and a cause of offence to me personally, I cannot excuse the way I reacted, and I also apologize for this whole-heartedly, and extend the hand of friendship to Lady Lee.
So he starts this thread with the stated aim of having Simon either ban him, lock the thread, or remove posts. He then logs the entire conversation so that he can whine to his little group of sycophants about how he stood up to the big bad Simon and how the 'house' always wins. Then when Simon doesn't give him what he wants, he goes on and on trying to get the last word in. I would normally just let this one sit as it is, but if the past is any indication, he'll be back and we'll see these obnoxious routines again. If Cedars didn't want people to talk about him, then the last thing he should have done was open up a thread about himself.
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JW apologist Emeth dismisses teachings of Russell as irrelevant, uninspired and even funny.. Maybe in the future jw's will say the same about todays Governing Body?
by The Quiet One inemeth said: "russell never claimed to be a inspired prophet or without any failures or mistakes.
he was just a human as much as i and you are.
he is just a person who started a process of digging and searching for bible truths.
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'Hermano Russell' was always some sort of mythical figure to us. That stern Puritan face and stout Santa Claus beard made him look like he was from a long ago and proud era. With that said, there was like this unwritten and unspoken word that we did not examine his works, and those who would even be so brave as to ask for one of his publications at the literature counter would be made to feel as if it were a stupid question. I always wondered why. I found the answer as I moved into non-WT media to find out more about this religion I belonged to. As a result, I found that JWs have a very weak religious foundation. Russell built his house upon predictions which turned out to be false, and everyone who came after him has only attempted to cover it up. No one has ever attempted to right the ship. Like a building long ago condemned, they keep on patching it up just enough to keep the doors open and the money flowing in.
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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Yep, it's still up.
Also found this:
http://aawa.co/blog/aawa-the-next-six-months/#more-1722
Go to the subheading under 'Reorganisation', and you'll find this:
AAWA recently reorganized its corporate structure. By law, we must have identifiable corporate officers, and we do.
Looks like AAWA finally realised that they must have identifiable corporate officers (not aliases), which was what me and several other posters had earlier pointed out. See what a value JWN feedback can be? Come and drink life's water-free.